Mud Slinging

Dave's picture

I would, again, ask every member to stop mud-slinging or I'll be forced to do some measure that will not be good for all of us.

I would like to see mature members who respect opinions, write opinions and stick to opinions. Personal attack is not a mark of a mature person and differences are hardly resolved through it.

Thank you for adhering to this kind request.

Dave

It happened before which led

Jorge O. Macenas's picture

It happened before which led to the demise of former Catanduanes web discussion flatform. It is happening again. Again, it was noted that participants using cyber aliases were more vicious in personal attacks and mud slinging so to speak. We never learned.

This is the very reason why it was previously suggested to use real name. Adding personal touch even to differing opinions has been observed to minimize animosity.

Tao Pusong Ginto at Pangalan

ilaya's picture

Ilubog man sa putik ang taong ginto ang puso kikinang at lulutang din. Ano mang paninira at alipusta kung ang taong binabato ay kilala ang integridad at moralidad ay di kayang sirain ng mga putik na salita. Tulad ng isang mabungang kahoy binabato dahil sa biyayang bunga. Gaya ng tao binabato dahil sa kanyang mga gawa.
Pangalan na-aala-ala at nagiging bantug sa mga gawa. May tanyag sa mabuting gawa. May bantug sa masamang gawa. Pangalan maging tanyag sana sa kabutihan, integridad at moralidad. Sino ba ang ayaw maging kilala ang pangalan? Alam ko may puso siyang ginto.... pero bakit siya nakatago? Alam ko alam ninyo ang dahilan...maraming dahilan....

jom

masanay kana sana ta arog ninyan ang taho pag mae kaya ang argomento di tirahon yo taho buko na yo ideya hahaha. ikaw ta dami mo alam masanay kanan hehehe. ako sanay ninyan na mga muds slinging na yan sa seninaryo pa hahaha.

Korek ka dyan

Jorge O. Macenas's picture

Sinabi mo pa Langob. Tama ka dyan.

Ikan dyan na piga paagi yung argumento sa emotion, perception, tatsar na ikan gapa sumod sumod, ikan nin gapahelak na piga gibo daa silang patal, ikan nin haros magmuda. Everytime I read these kind of posts, my heart is overwhelmed with pity, my reactions call for understanding and my fatherly instinct prevails- burdonon ko kaya tong barasawbasawon na batang tuyan?

hayan na mga alias dyan,,,,,

amore's picture

hayan na mga alias dyan,,,,, use the real name dapat talaga gamitin... for the sake of this forum....

hala layas mga alias, change na ning tunay na name...wag matigas ang uro...

May your troubles be less, Your blessings be more, And nothing but happiness come through your door.

real name

taypongard's picture

“Dai bali nang dai mabisto kung ang tuyo pagtabang ...kaysa magpabisto(mangampanya arog kan ibang politiko) kung ang tuyo pagtabag!”

[ "Dai man-ipot nganing dai pag duhayan!"...taypongard ]

real name@taypongard

Dave's picture

ha ha ha ha...
this made my day!

Dave

Pagtabang y Pagtabag

Jorge O. Macenas's picture

Yung pag gamit nin tunay na ngaran "Suggestion" man sana. Kita na mismo an naka observar kun inano pati sursino an naki sabadan nin lupak y duhay nin karbaw, atake personal, pakita nin isog y mas mala pagmuda.

Dito sa CF, Mas marenas kun gapa midbid na, magatabang pa? Tabang sa paagi nin pag contrivuar nin ideyang o expereyensang makaka avri nin kaisipan nin mga readers. Tabang sa paaging responsableng pag surat kun saen an writer offers to be accountable by way of disclosing his/her true identity.

Mae man nin pulitiko dito sa CF na pirming pigadangil dangilan na puro pagtabag an gibo. Sado pa mae pa man nin CF member na pigagamit an CF site para ikampanya sadili. An CF dae papat pag gamiton as a flatform of hate campaign against certain sector of our society such as government personnel, political leaders etc.

Mas menos an mae na ngani gapa midbid, mae pa ga tabang, barasawbasawon pa.

Cf Platform of Hate a big No

ilaya's picture

Cf as vehicle of media expession and information is not a platform of hate campaign. As a forum people can air their grievances and opinions and call the attention of people concerned to heed and address the issues being aired.
Bilang mamayan na nakikita at nararanasan lalo na sa pamahalaan karapatan at katungkulan ng bawat mamayang ipahayag at kumilos para maayos o matigil ang ano mang kamalian na nakakaapekto sa kanyang buhay at mga kapamilya. Parang imburnal na mabaho hahayaan na lang ba ng isang maymalasakit na mamayan na patuloy na umalingasaw ang imburnal na ito na nakakaapekto sa kalusugan ng nakapaligid dito? Galit nabubuo kung ang paki-usap at panawagan ay hindi inaaksyonan ng mga taong may pananagutan nito. Galit na nabuo sa sarili ang pinapahayag at iniuukol lalo na sa ating pamahalaan na patuloy sa kanyang mga bulok at mabahong gawa.
Salamat sa mga taong bumuo ng Cf sa isip sa puso at sa spirit nila sariling hangarin na magkaroon ng tunay na pagbabago sa ating sambayanan para matigil ang mga kabulukan at magkaroon ng tunay na pagkakaisa para sa kaunlaran at kapayapaan. Nasa pamahalaan din mga kapamilya ko manager ng nfa at director ng ched kailangan ko pa bang hikayatin mga tao magalit sa kanila? Alam ko mga kapamilya ko wala rin silang magagawa dahilan sila rin ay nagpapasunod lang sa bulok na systema lalo na mabaho ang nasa pangulohan at ang position nila ay nasa discretion ng mga nakaupo sa poder.

Pagtabang Y Pagtabag@JOM

Dave's picture

Migo, kung na angas-angas ka pang kadagi pwede ka nang maging cura paroco sa viga! ha ha ha... tibay mo naman mag bicol nin ingles... ha ha ha...

Rejoiner.... baga na kami sirang plaka...

The bone of contention is: I do not see the reason why we need to change our current CF names IF we can behave and not resort to bad-mouthing and bad-manners and wrong-conduct! We very well can retain our anonimity if we are mature in conducting ourselves and contribute more to the amazingly wealthy ideas brought forward here than resort to personal attacks like the vicious political tactics, throwing dirt on each faces like kids!

Repeat... This site is beautiful because people are different and people are respected even as we disagree with their ideas. That is beautiful and we learn so much from that.

On the other hand, resulting to personalities does not only contribute to this wealth of ideas but succeeds to speak more of the maturity and character of the writer while trying hard to punch people on the nose rather than disagreeing agreably on ideas!

Dave

re: "real name" or "username"

man-uukag's picture

In my case, I just followed the instructions. The administrator(s) asked for a "username" so i opted for "man-uukag". If they asked for my "real name" instead, it would have been a different story. Besides, from what i know there are no prohibitions on the name you will be using on this site.
Here's a friendly reminder on how to avoid arguments: if you don't agree with a post, ignore it; and If you don't want to get the ire of the author/readers, don't leave comments.

Ok yan sir!

Ok yan sir ala naman akong intensiyon na magkandidato ni sa hinagap ko wala sa bokabularyo ko. Gusto ko man kutanang mag-anonymous pero pano man ako mamimidbidan nin akong kapwa Catandunganon kun magatago ko sa mga aliases na yan. Pagtigatarmi sana ako nin foul kung medyo mai na sa tono yan akong pigasurat dito. Paagihon sa magayon na mga huron-huron ang mga debate at paghaturan ang mga lumiliko na. Magkaburonyog kahit iba-ibang paniniwara. Gumalang para igalang ka rin. Peace lang kita gabos!!!!1
Abuso la compianza del matal hombre!

Ikaw man @ amore

Umpisahan mo na ako talaga pati buhay ko naikukuwento ko pa.
Gusto ko kasing magsilbing inspirasyon lalo na sa mga kabataan natin ngayon. Importante wala kang dapat ikatakot dahil andiyan siya na laging nagtatanggol sa akin at mga taong ginagamit para tumulong basta para sa kabutihan ng lahat. Syempre marami kang kaaway dahil mabuti ka kasi mas marami ang masama at yun ang aaway sayo.
Abuso la compianza del matal hombre!

@jerry

amore's picture

Ay habo ko iistorya ang buhay ta makulog sa boot na maogma at the end... baad sabihon na naman kaso iba hambogon ako.. ay inda man... manahimik na lng ako d2.. pacomment comment na lng...

May your troubles be less, Your blessings be more, And nothing but happiness come through your door.

@ amore again

Bako ko man piga paistorya yung buhay mo kundi yung tunay mong name at hindi alias lang. Kita ko naman yung mukha mo sa mga pic na ipinopost mo. Sabagay sabi nga pag ayaw marami dahilan pero pag gusto marami paraan.. Dai man kita piga pilit.

Abuso la compianza del matal hombre!

iyo tabi maestro

man-uukag's picture

An pinaka-importante sa gabos, iyo an pinaka-mahalaga...

imho - in my humble opinion

bahi's picture

i have erred too. for not being sensitive to the feeling of pidyo and donna and redstar. for violating the code of conduct of cf namely being at peace with every member. but i have nothing to say sorry for because the situation i have holed myself into needs the resistance of my conscience.

i did not damn anyone. have never use caps lock as if i own the site (basic donts in the superhighway). that is why i am proud that i am IN pa rin sa CF.

i am sorry mods. i am walking away from this red thing (no pun intended). but we will not forget biloy. we will work more for him.

MAD SLINGers

kawor's picture

When you whisper-'hare-hare"sana ayaw pag "SURYAK" o Shout... ta baad mabungog yo taringa ko.

pwedeng mag Kagsing kon "IMO"o cualta yan ipanao ninyo ha?
Cease FIRE! he's fired? fired chicken or Eggs?

"Aanhon mo pa yan Gabon..kon Natunok ka na nin Hararom".

The entire law is summed up

arnold's picture

The entire law is summed up in a single command; "Love your nieghbour as your self". If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. (Gal. 5:14-15).

PEACE TO ALL!

amore's picture

Sir Dave,

We acknowledge and thanks for your request, NOTED....

Dear ALL,
I'm hoping na magkaisa tayong mga taga CF, bago natin pansinin ang mga kamalian ng ibang tao. Subukan muna natin na maging isang mabuting halimbawa para mapaniwalaan tayo na tayo'y may mabisang samahan at hindi kayang buwagin ng kahit na sino. Kung nagkataon man na nagkaka-initan na sa mga issue or sa mga different opinyon, at the end let PEACE will remain in our hearts. Wag tayo magpapagapi sa ating mga emosyon. Isipin na lng natin na tayo'y isang KAPAMILYA or KAPUSO whatever it is basta magkasundo dahil iisa ang pinagmulan nating probinsya. (ISLA CATANDUNGAN) WE PROUD!

Dapat nga mag-grow ang mga friendship natin, and beware of enemy kc darating ang araw na magkita kita tayo sa pilipinas.
Yan dapat ang pairalin natin d2, isang FRIENDSHIP!!! hindi ENEMY!!!! ... Kung sa tingin natin na maaayos naman ang lahat na pinagtalunan, bawat isa dapat may pagpapakumababa at sana yong ibang may mga prinsipyong pinaglalaban ay dapat marunong umintindi sa mga opinyon ng bawat isa....at isapuso natin na tayong lahat na and2 sa CF para magbigay ng mga ideas, to express our freedom of speech .... walang perpekto d2 ki tama or mali ang english mo.. basta you know how to handle your blogs ok lng..... hindi tayo d2 nagpapaligsahan sa mga english dahil ako bobo pagdating sa english subject... hahahahaha...(wag nyo ako insultuhin kung minsan meron kayo makitang wrong grammar) honest lng talaga ako.. hahaha trying hard.

Sa mga nasaktan ko or nakaaway dahil sa mis-understanding with each other sana po alisin nyo na ang galit nyo sa dibdib nyo at sana naman wag nyo ng samahan ng "animal instinct" ang mga biruan... jokes is just a jokes only..and nothing else....

LET THE PEACE REMAINS IN OUR HEART ALWAYS!

Peace comes from living in the moment and looking for the good in others.
Peacefulness comes from facing our fears and letting them go - trusting that
things will turn out all right. Peacefulness is also a way of approaching conflict
with others so no one is made wrong. Everyone wins because we then work to find a peaceful solution.

Regards,
Amore

May your troubles be less, Your blessings be more, And nothing but happiness come through your door.

Galit sa dibdib@amore

Dave's picture

as you said "alisin nating ang galit sa ating dibdib..." e pano kung yong galit wala sa dibdib!

ano daw pay jerry, pay bahi, pay el pidio and gabos na pay, pati si ka pay -ka pay!

Dave

hala ka sir dave.. ngata

amore's picture

hala ka sir dave.. ngata man? nasain baga ang galit ning tawo bakong sa dibdib??? unless na lng kung iba ang meaning mo... hehehehe jokes po...

May your troubles be less, Your blessings be more, And nothing but happiness come through your door.

Laktob

rudi-payonhon's picture

Proverbs 13
1 A wise son heeds his father's instruction,
but a mocker does not listen to rebuke.

2 From the fruit of his lips a man enjoys good things,
but the unfaithful have a craving for violence.

3 He who guards his lips guards his life,
but he who speaks rashly will come to ruin.

4 The sluggard craves and gets nothing,
but the desires of the diligent are fully satisfied.

5 The righteous hate what is false,
but the wicked bring shame and disgrace.

6 Righteousness guards the man of integrity,
but wickedness overthrows the sinner.

7 One man pretends to be rich, yet has nothing;
another pretends to be poor, yet has great wealth.

8 A man's riches may ransom his life,
but a poor man hears no threat.

9 The light of the righteous shines brightly,
but the lamp of the wicked is snuffed out.

10 Pride only breeds quarrels,
but wisdom is found in those who take advice.

11 Dishonest money dwindles away,
but he who gathers money little by little makes it grow.

12 Hope deferred makes the heart sick,
but a longing fulfilled is a tree of life.

13 He who scorns instruction will pay for it,
but he who respects a command is rewarded.

14 The teaching of the wise is a fountain of life,
turning a man from the snares of death.

15 Good understanding wins favor,
but the way of the unfaithful is hard. [a]

16 Every prudent man acts out of knowledge,
but a fool exposes his folly.

17 A wicked messenger falls into trouble,
but a trustworthy envoy brings healing.

18 He who ignores discipline comes to poverty and shame,
but whoever heeds correction is honored.

19 A longing fulfilled is sweet to the soul,
but fools detest turning from evil.

20 He who walks with the wise grows wise,
but a companion of fools suffers harm.

21 Misfortune pursues the sinner,
but prosperity is the reward of the righteous.

22 A good man leaves an inheritance for his children's children,
but a sinner's wealth is stored up for the righteous.

23 A poor man's field may produce abundant food,
but injustice sweeps it away.

24 He who spares the rod hates his son,
but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.

25 The righteous eat to their hearts' content,
but the stomach of the wicked goes hungry.

"Look not what Catanduanes can do for you,but what you can do for Catanduanes"

I agree

Makakaliwa ka man, makakanan ka man, makagitna ka man o kahit sino ka man. Imporatante sa CF pwede kang magtanggol, magkomento, magbigay ng opinyon, magbigay ng mga paliwanag ng walang personalan at walang masasakit na salita. Kaya tayo hindi umaasenso dahil tayo-tayo lang nagbabatuhan ng putik. Ipaliwanag ang side at walang pikunan. Tandaan ang pikon ay laging talo. At ang mga nagwawagi ay yung mapakumbaba at hindi napipikon.. Sir dave puwede kayong gumawa ng hakbang kaya lang hindi rin nakakasakit yung tama lang. Bordonon mo nin lingaton naning makaiktin lamang!!
Abuso la compianza del matal hombre!

Nangga Baradilan

kawor's picture

Sarabadan, Suryakan, Karagsingan, Burogtian, Pirilsian, Paratagoan, Barabadan, Irilpitan, Kararabyahan, PangangSiribal-sibal, Piritikan, Irigitan, Duhayan, Haramasan nin tadom.. Palasbutan nin Hangos....
ay Inda...siin daw kita pangga puroton?

Puro mga Pasusuhayon...Kadagkuro ta na. Kaya pa daw yan nin Lapdas?
Ba-ba?
Tuyaw?

Bayan ko

..Anong nangyari sa Imo?

"Aanhon mo pa yan Gabon..kon Natunok ka na nin Hararom".

a pleasant day to all!

burabod_bato's picture

every one of us has our own individual personalities, different from one another but sharing in the same dream that is to be one as Catandunganons and as children of God. indeed what we need is not fighting or quarreling for we are after peace and goodness in our own families, communities, societies and our own province. what we need is respect and lower down our pride so as to allow all of us to adjust to different kinds of personality. remember, we are all one. we are all brothers and sisters in the Lord. Amen. Have a Happy Day!

ikan ninyan dito dave

ikan man paran nin yan dito hehehe mal edukADO yan heheheheehe. magbago na kamo. hehehe .buko gabos makopormi sain yo .