Catanduanes Forum

sa ngaran nin maogma asin buhay na pag eerestoryahan,

"ok, call the Pre-NPA period of Catanduanes as not peaceful, and let me honestly agree!"
salamat sa pag ako na talagang sugna pa ninyon buko naman na atlantis y eden yang atong banwa, iso to yu sinimbag ko ninyo phraze hari ki baruch spinoza na yang kawaran nin gyera bukong garantiya nin katoninungan, por dahil sa mga rason na yang depinisyon nin katoninungan buko man sanang naka pako sa kawaran nin gyera. minsan yang katoninungan subjective, halimbawa piga buran na Industrial peace nin gubyerno buda nin business sector yang kawaran nin strikes sa mga factories, samantalang yang peace as defined by workers eh tamang pasahod at ligtas na lugar pagawa, kung mi to nakakamit they resort to srtikes to attain it, anyway ehemplo sana yan just to drive my point.

"But did the presence of the "messianic" NPAs solve it for us"
mi ko aram dave kung talagang gapamidbid silang "messias" o tagapagligtas, siguro kaipuhan mo pa na bakapan nin paliwanag yu salitang messianic as coined to these revolutionaries.

"Sure the absence of war is not a guarantee of peace! Do you then imply that NPA's WAR IS a guarantee of peace in our province? They have been sowing havocs in our country for almost half a century now, for heaven's sake, and I still have to see a part of our country reaping peace because of NPA's war! "

No i am not at all implying that it is a guarantee of peace for now, as war like childbirth is bloody but it gives birth to life in itself, "sowing havocs" on whose perspective are you standing from dave? who have benn the victims of these havocs? do you have any idea about a foriegn power "sowing havoc" on us for about 2 centuries now? and why have i not heard any word about that dave?why havent i heard even the minutest slap against foriegn control, elite democracy and landlessness? havoc is a powerfull word dave.

"History shows their presence means, youths recruited into their armed group"

The only thing that make your statement negative about the youth joining the NPA is your dislike about the npa, the International Humanitarian Law clearly says that those 18 and above are regarded "legaly" free to join liberation armed movements, if i can still remember you have been with the red cross, may i know of incidents involving child soldiers if in case this is what youre alluding.

" fear sown amongst the peaceful people with their basketful of guns, extortion through fear, knocking at houses in the wee hours of the night"

try reading the United Nation's special rappertuer Philip Alston's report, try reading the blotters of families in baras and pandan, the fact sheets of teh CMJP,news reports from archives.

"basketfull of guns"? c'mmon dave kaya nga nakakasar ang social service ng gubyerno kasi prayuredad yung pesetng modernization ng afp, at mas prayorerdad pa ang military at bayad utan kesa edukasyon, pabahay at kalusugan db? sino ngaun ang may basketfull of guns? sino ba yung mga armadong lumusob s aputing baybay at pinag sesexually harass yung mga babae, nag nakaw pa ng manok at maluto, ginakod pa sa riog su pobreng aki saka pina kanap na baging ayam. diba sina lt. fedilino? mag mumukhang ragtag army ang NPA compara sa pwersas armadas nin pilipinas!

"now... is that a guarantee of peace?"
there is a civil war dave, surely wala pang tunay na kapayapaan, pero dahil yang katoninungan buko sanang simpleng kalayawan sa paki inum, o paki barkada kundi sadong comprehinsibong depinisyon na ga kugos sa kadakur na hawong nin taho, masasabi ko na ga tubo na yang binhi ni sadong sosyedad na matalinkas asin matuninong para sa mas nakakadakur, surely sa mga nakakadakur buko sa kagabsan.

sa pagka gilumduman ko, sadong parsurat yang nag sabi: yang matuninong na pampamng para sana sa mga tahong ikan kusog nin boot na mag lusong sa dagat (magpaguronggudong) sa panahon nin bagyo....