Catanduanes Forum

saro sa kultura nin satong eleksyon ang pagbakal asin pagpabakal kan saindang boto. banggi bago ang botohan dae nangangaturog ang mga tawo ta gahiwas o nanao ning emo ang mga coordinator ning mga politiko. kadaklan na mga coordinator (gabakal ning boto) ning mga politiko ang mga youth leaders nin barangay, SK chariman, mga kagawad nin barangay, kapitan ning barangay, asin iba pa.

saarin daw an mahari siguro pagputi ning uwak!!! hehehe

no to vote buying and vote selling!!!

awat ng helang ini sa banwa ta, dai pa ako ga grade 1 gilumdum ko na na gapunta kami sa plaza bago magborotohan tapos piga palinya kami sa may poste ya tauhan kami nin tag dos pesos(eto un color blue na papel pa).nasa basket na buri nakalaag un imo pero di ko sabot na parte na palan ito nin exercise nin vote buying.I can even name the "politicos" involved in vote buying during those times.Isipon nyo na lng kang panahon na un kung gurano pa lang ang halaga nin boto?Sabi kan mga kataid mi "manang" daa o kaya "maning" ang ya panao kang mga kandidato.Boot sabihon mananggatos(P100) boda maningkwenta(P50) but that is almost 30 years ago.Ngonian un mga pulitikong ito cge pa man giraray ang laban kada eleksyon.Yaon ng padalaganun yo agom, yo aki, tapos sya na nman sa sunod.Pati un mga kalaban ninda na nanaltag man nin kwarta cge sanang kandidato maski daing kaganahan.Indeed politics is a great business for those who knows how to play their cards.Tama un comment digdi ni bo romero manugod sa proseso nin pagbakal nin boto.Safe man baga ta bako man mismo un kandidato ang nanaltag ngudi un mga chosen "kabo" na minadakula man ang tulak boda minagayon ang harong kada eleksyon.30 years na ang nakaagi pero bukod sa cellphone signal, cable tv, almost daily sched na ang flight at mas dakul na lantsa o ferry boat buko ng di katig o kaya un MV Antipolo o MV Virac na kahoy, pero pareho pa man giraray ang pagtios nin satuyang banwa.Ngonian pati isisira o gulay ya import pa sa mainland bicol, pati baka boda karbaw ya bakal pa sa luwas nin probinsya.Nata daw, haputon ta na lng un mga tatay, nanay,tiyo,tiya,lolo,lola boda mga kasingakian ta na nagpabakal nin boto.Pero mas haputon ta un mga pulitiko na namakal nin boto na mas yumaman pa ngonian kesa sa dati.Ang pagpili nin tama na kandidato pig papaagi sa hararom na pag isip o discernment boda iyan dikta nin satuyang konsensya.Ang satong konsenya yan ang satuyang kalag(soul).Pag pinabakal mo ang saimong boto garo man sana na pinabakal mo ang saimong konsensya despwes ang saimong Kalag.Tugot daw kita kaan?

"LEAD, FOLLOW OR GET OUT OF THE WAY."

Vote buying or vote selling are both to be deplored. Of the two, I believe that the latter is the lesser of the two evils. Therefore in tackling the issue I think the answer must be to go after the vote buyers who put temptation in the way of the weak.
How does a civilised society effectively tackle crime? By creating laws and enforcing them. This is how we deal with (or should) murder and robbery to speeding and littering. There must be consequences or society dissolves into anarchy.
In the real world we must live with cost constraints and limited resources. We therefore are forced to prioritise crime-fighting efforts to those problem areas we deem most important. We must decide how important the tackling of vote buying is. I believe it should have a very high priority.
Detection and consequences:
Given that vote buyers prey on the weak, may be the answer lies in substantially rewarding the weak for bringing evidence to light. An incentive scheme is likely to be very popular. It needn't be expensive in that the evidence of a few might be enough to bring a case against a candidate.
The consequences for a candidate who has been shown to have participated in vote buying would be a matter for the courts, but I would hope it might mean a custodial sentence and a life-time ban on participating in frontline politics again.

Sweet Bikolana

Benjamin Franklin, quotes about Vote:
When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.

Kasabihan:
Bicol my version : Daeng nagmina sa kinaban na daing pig-agihan ning kalamidad.
Tagalog: Walang humipo sa uling na walang naulingan.

sano local version nin pax sa catanduanes nag daragan contra mina.mabuhay ANG MGA SANO SA DIOCESE OF VIRAC.ASA BICOL PERYODIKO

Let be united in this.Just one suggestion: this coming election,let pose this in our main door:

..........." My vote is not for sale " ..............simple but effective....Pls try this

Despite many instances of electoral fraud, it remains a difficult phenomenon to study. This follows from its inherent illegality. Harsh penalties aimed at deterring electoral fraud make it likely that individuals who perpetrate fraud do so with the expectation that it either will not be discovered or will be excused.

"C Bulod pasiring sa ilaya"

People should start organizing a citizen watchdog for a clean and honest election free from vote buying and vote selling. Pax as an advocacy group should lead in organizing and educating the people. The strength of a united people will deter any party to manipulate our elections. The watchdog can also draw support from national organizations and the media. The change that everyone craves for starts from oneself and everyone can be a member of this citizen watchdog like the advocacy of Boto mo Ipatrol Mo. This coming election is high time now for us to stand for this change and united let us all oppose this dirty practice of election cheating. United people power can effect a citizen arrest and let us confiscate all the money in their acts of vote buying. These can be used as material evidence for their crime and the money can also be used as incentive and reward to all the police authorities who assisted and effected this arrest and confiscation.

The main issue is Vote Buying & sellers of Vote not ex-simenarian issue (tama po ba ako??? kung mali po paki-correct na sana. Thanks)

Well, ang masasabi ko po ang vote buying & seller's of votes is a human practice more than decades in the Philippines.

We are poor people who are most often targeted with offers to buy their votes and the poor people is weak on this and we are not forcing them ( candidates) to give the money or anything to us. But even we accepted the money, we have right to choose the right candidates of course! It doesn't mean na porke binigyan ka ng pera eh iboboto mo na sya which is totally WRONG!

Actually, vote buying is the sign of crimes and misuse the public & government funds pag nasa oposisyon na sila.

Kasabihan:
Bicol my version : Daeng nagmina sa kinaban na daing pig-agihan ning kalamidad.
Tagalog: Walang humipo sa uling na walang naulingan.

bakit naging x-seminarians kayo???

Sano Dave,

Naogma ako ta sa taas nin level mo, nag ikan ka nin interest dito sa sado sa mga advocacies namo. Paki publish mo tabi yan maski siin ta mas madyag yan. Mas lalo akong naogma nin mag aspire kang maging member. Mga kapareho mong mga madunong na mga ex sem an mga nagpuno ninto. You can contact Sanong Pepito Herrera, as president of catanduanes seminarians. May mga elected officers na sila. Actually, they were the ones who sponsored the fun run last sept. 16 against illegal mining in catanduaners. PAX suggested the same. Pls. send me your personal circumstances para ako na lang fill up nin application form mo. You can also organize yourselves as pax in diaspora. he he he.. call dean vergara. kadakur man dyan mga ex. pwede sadong chapter kamo dyan. Dakurong tabang ang Pax sa ako. lalo na sa networking..

regards sa gabos,

Ping

as one philosopher (or is he?) said, we deserve the kind of leaders that we have. true enough, we are governed by thieves of the highest order. the funny thing is, we call them "honorable".

Election time is near (we pray). i say that even the most intelligent person is not fit to govern if he is not a good person. we always face the same problem year after year. "NUarin daw mauswag an sakuyang banwaan? nuarin daw kami makamate nin kaginhawaan?" we must vote for the right people to run our government!! the politicians whom we voted for last election promised and broke the same thing all over again!!! when can we learn??

they say that the body can work well if the head is well. thus, we must elect a national leader at the helm of our government who can withstand the tempest of corruption, who knows not how to compromise, who calls "suhol" by its proper name, who never bats an eye when everyone else is against him for doing the right thing. he must be someone who can withstand the pressure of his peers, who can say with pride that " I NEVER STOLE A SINGLE DIME FROM THE PEOPLE'S CHEST". i thought this kind of leader can never emerge in our lifetime. i was proven wrong. I've seen him in the person of Father Ed panlilio of pampanga as well as gov. grace padaca of isabela. last i heard, fr. panlilio is now subject to recall election because the trapos in his province find his zero corruption policy too stringent!! where in the world will you hear a news that somebody is persecuted for doing a right, noble, bright thing? ONLY IN THE PHILIPPINES MY FRIEND! some critics argue that fr. ed will do no better as president. well, this may shock the whole bureaucracy as corruption has become the blood that is running the system. but i say that with the help and support of patriotic filipinos from all walks of life (i hope there still are numerous), the overhauling the system is not a distant future just as Rico blanco in his song "antukin" said, "kung ayaw may dahilan, kung gusto palaging mayro'ng paraan."

as for me, a newly registered voter, i will vote for panlilio and company should they decide to run for national office ( the presidency in particular). its now high time for us, this coming election, to choose the leaders that we "ought" to deserve. i urge you fellow cataduanganons abroad to not miss this golden opportunity, to be one with us here in effecting socio-political "change", just like in the u.s.
YES WE CAN!!

so much for this. i've seen this ad "ako mismo". i suggest to sir dave and to PAX community to provide in this site advocacy program or initiative (as i am not a computer savvy) to NOT VOTE for candidates (they be local or national ones) who will hand out money, goods, etc., this upcoming election. during the campaign period, posters as well as sound systems (as those used by politicians) about the EVILS of receiving "election money", i believe, will greatly increase the people's awareness on this matter. a tandem with namfrel catanduanes or ppcrv catanduanes is highly feasible. as for the funds, i think this deserves another discussion. i believe in the objectives of catanduanes forum! let us (catandunganons) be the ones to be that difference. we are not cowards. are we???

pepito